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star wars republic night 2 thriller night

Posted June 1, 2012 by Trever Leingod

Night 1 passed with a few misfortunes. Someone tried to burn Xhin alive and seemingly succeeded... but when morning came, the police found nobody in his chambers. Somehow, Xhin survived! Had Yoda saved him, or did the Medical droid?

Feral was reportedly shot (with the signs of a Fett attack!) but survived. It seemed he also had someone watching over him... he lives to fight another day.

72 hours or 10 votes of the same call, 7 votes make up 1/3.

Same roster as yesterday, no changes!

Day 2 is on. GO!

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I have to go, and don't know when I will get back, but Roxas will confirm that I am a second Obi-Wan now when he gets on. I posted in that thread.

Trever, you have to make this the "Main" thread, so we can vote.

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Feral

Fixed

June 1, 2012
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Trever Leingod

Truth, Feral does tell.

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`Roxas`

Day 1 started at 2:01 PM on May 31st. and ended at 6:34 PM on May 31st.

So a 3 day 72 hour round lasted 4 1/2 hours and at least 5 players did not make a post.

I left my home at 11:30 AM that day and returned at 7:15 PM and the Night 0 and Day 1 was over.

Believe it or not some players have rl things going on (like jobs, helping neighbors, etc) and can not be glued to their PC's 24/7.

Now I don't believe in dragging things out (72 hours is a long time)but at the same time I don't think it's unreasonable to at least put a 24 hour min on a day round.

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chiefsonny
 

Meant to say at least 5 players did not vote according to the vote count.

June 1, 2012
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chiefsonny
 

Although I did contribute to the brief day round, I do agree with chief.

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`Roxas`

Entirely true, chief, but the needed 10 votes of the same call were made to end the day round, and both night rounds had their night actions done quickly enough.

I have been trying to follow Yeano's example for the most part, but I have gotten two complaints on overly short rounds. Thus I add on a minimum of 24 hours for a Day round, or until every player can post, whichever comes first. Fair enough?

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Trever Leingod

Yes.

And I do understand how these day rounds can seem to drag on forever and it does get annoying.

At least with a 24 hour min, players that work or are out doing other things, do get the full benefit of the 1st day in the Day round.

Thanks

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chiefsonny
 

No problem. {8D}

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Trever Leingod

So Ferals legit now and the protectors have done their job.

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#85

Looks like it. I guess we need to figure out where to go now.

June 1, 2012
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Helius

I think we should no vote again, just for today. The person I investigated was innocent. I will not say that person's name outright because then the Sith can take him and it was essentially a wasted investigation early in the game.

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`Roxas`

Sounds fair enough to me officer roxas. Soon though we are going to have to go offensive. We don't know the moves they are making.

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#85

We still got to fix it. Yesterdays tallies are still there.

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Teddy-Son

I know, and that scares me.

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`Roxas`

Supposedly Xhin has to fix that himself. I can't seem to reset the tally counters via the game panel.

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Trever Leingod

Okay, so we've got two Cops now, which is a major plus. On the other hand, since neither of them was taken by the Dark Lord, it's probably safe to say that the Sith have recruited one more person to their cause. Did the Sith not try to kill anyone last night? The attack on Xhin (lol at someone trying to kill Xhin again) looks like it was an Arsonist strike, and Roxas was apparently attacked by Jango Fett.

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white lancer

You mean Feral, right white lancer?

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`Roxas`

For now.

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Zanic

This is weird. Usually someone dies over the night nope it doesn't happen. Now there is still the same amount of people and I have no clue to could still be what.

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Teddy-Son

It really is odd that nobody died. Is that a first for a Night One? {:s}

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`Roxas`

Right, Feral. Sorry, I read the post kinda quickly and just assumed Roxas was the one targeted.

Anyway, because of the Spy/Dark Lord combo we're one member down even though no one died last night, and we can't wait too long to go on the offensive. Fortunately two Cops should speed up the process.

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white lancer

No one died in Night One on either of the first two games, actually.

June 1, 2012
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white lancer

Yes. Agreed with Lancer. Now that we have to cops, that offers a much better probability of finding a guilty member tonight. I think we should hold off on lynchings for the time being.

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Zanic

Wouldn't we know if someone was converted? And the DL isn't guaranteed a conversion.

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The Bandit

That was because Yoda/MD saved the two that were targeted, but people did take aggressive action.

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Trever Leingod

Not being a follower of Star Wars, I'm still trying to understand which character is which.

That said, I have seen nothing that gives me anything to go on.

One thing I do know is that `Roxas` knows how to play the cop and if the Doc keeps him alive and with Feral (who I don't think should have reveled so soon) we should get 2 reports the next day round.

So for now!

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chiefsonny
 

http://gtx0.com/view.php?doc=260
Like, really guys, come on. It's not hard.

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The Bandit

I would like to apologize for my stupidity in my first reply saying I wouldn't reveal who was innocent... It was Xhin.

And yes, hopefully we get two guilty verdicts. :D

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`Roxas`

@Bandit

Lancer is making a guess, because it is not possible to know who/if someone was converted.

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Trever Leingod

Ah, alright. I remembered you saying the ratio could change, but you did say we wouldn't know. My mistake. However, we do know if a conversion fails right? So long as it doesn't fail because the GM protected them?

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The Bandit

Yeah. I was assuming someone was converted because the Sith have the Droid Spy, who would have investigated someone in the first night and found out their role, and since they know someone's role for sure they would have had no problem recruiting them. Although I guess it's possible that they attempted to recruit Feral (while Jango Fett tried to kill him) and Yoda protected him from that. It's also possible that the Spy investigated Yoda the first night and Feral has already said Yoda can't be converted--not sure why they wouldn't have killed him last night, though, if that were the case.

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white lancer

It's entirely possible that `Roxas` and Feral are both Sith and are playing us, remember that. However, I'll believe them for now. We're gonna need to see some proof soon though.

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White Thunder

If they're both Sith then the real cop should have come forward by now.

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The Bandit

That's what I thought after I said I didn't trust Roxas. If he wasn't the real cop, then I would have expected the real cop to call him out on it.

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Zanic

There's always the possibility that Roxas was the Cop but was recruited by the DL on Night 0. That's really unlikely, though.

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white lancer

If they are that lucky then whatever. We never had a chance.

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The Bandit

Yeah roxas and feral are solid. No way 2 claims would go without counter claims.

I'm not a follower of star wars either, is Fett neutral sided? Because he went after someone who was going to become cop. So him and whoever was recruited are working against us in addition to sith. Not dying is nice but they are boosting their numbers.

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#85

Jango Fett - A third-party role which shows up as a Sith in the Republic/Sith ratio and to Obi-Wan. Each night, the Bounty Hunter will target someone. The host will then flip a coin using GTX0 and if it lands on Heads, you will protect that person by killing the first person who enters the room besides himself. If it lands on Tails, the Bounty Hunter will kill the person in that room.

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The Bandit

So we know Fett is on their side, but we don't know if someone has been converted. It's a huge risk for the DL to take imo.

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The Bandit

Interdasting

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#85

It would require an incredible amount of luck (with a lot of risk) for the DL to recruit the Cop on Night 0, so that's almost certainly not the case.

In previous games, the role that Fett was modeled after (the Lunatic) won as long as they survived the game. They aren't technically a part of the Sith (and they shouldn't know who the Sith are and vice-versa) but they show up as part of the ratio on the Sith side because I believe we (as the Town) need to kill him if we are to win.

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white lancer

Medical Droid should stay on Roxas and Feral at all costs; no exceptions. I don't buy that they're Sith trying to trick us with an elaborate lie: Feral's reaction to Roxas outing him last round was too all over the place for something that was planned out. I mean, it could have been a lie, but if it was then it's probably the best lie I've seen in a game of mafia.

Yoda should protect someone other than Roxas or Feral since the Medical Droid should target those two.

Xhin is confirmed innocent according to Roxas and tomorrow we should get two more verdicts. This game is probably going to be very short unless something unexpected happens.

No comments on my suspicions this game as I don't have any honestly :). Though I do think No-Kill would be best right now seeing as nobody died; it's like we're still on Day 1 but with more information.

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MajorasMask9

Yoda should protect someone other than Roxas or Feral since the Medical Droid should target those two.

The thing with this is that Yoda can protect one of them from getting taken by the Dark Lord while the MD cannot. Obviously if one of them gets taken by the Dark Lord the other will know it and report it to us, but the Sith may see that as a reasonable move since it gets rid of one of our Cops.

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white lancer

I will point out, however, that if the Sith convert him, he will be officially on their side and he can choose to keep his powers if he likes. Overall, that's not very game changing but I want to let the Fett know this.

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Trever Leingod

Xhin is confirmed innocent according to Roxas

Roxas said he (smartly) wasn't going to reveal the name of who he investigated. Am I missing how you determined Xhin is confirmed innocent? He was confirmed protected.

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#85

Yep, MD and Yoda should keep protecting those two.

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The Bandit

I hope Xhin gets here soon enough.

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Teddy-Son

Well, if either of them get converted by the Sith, the other would most likely be aware of it when they suddenly don't post in the Obi-Wan thread. But yeah I see your point on why Yoshi should protect one or the other; didn't realize Yoda had that power but the Medical Droid didn't.

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MajorasMask9

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I MEANT YODA. I miss post editing :(.

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MajorasMask9

This is how 85:

I would like to apologize for my stupidity in my first reply saying I wouldn't reveal who was innocent... It was Xhin.

I, for some reason, thought by saying he was innocent that the DL could convert that person.

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`Roxas`

You goofed up, MM9. {:P}

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`Roxas`

Cool Yoda is.{<00}

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Teddy-Son

Actually, come to think of it, I don't think we have to worry about having the DL convert one of the Cops. I imagine the DL will be worried about Mr. Jango Fett, who will probably target one of the Cops as well, and if they both target the same Cop there's a chance the DL will wind up dead. That also means that the MD will be in danger of getting attacked by Jango, however. It may be best if Yoda protects someone else because we don't want to lose him to Jango as well.

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white lancer

@Bandit

About the DL convert process, he can fail in 2 ways: 1, he can guess wrong, and his identity will be revealed, and 2, he can target someone protected by Yoda but not have his identity revealed.

In any other case the DL succeeds and no one but the Sith will be aware it happened.

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Trever Leingod

"I hope Xhin gets here soon enough.'

I thought he might be silenced but I have not see any post by him anywhere on the site in the last 8 hours.

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chiefsonny
 

I don't think there's a Silencing role this round, chief.

Anyway, the Jango Fett thing really makes this game a lot more complicated because I hesitate to give advice on what the night roles should do. It might be best if Yoda just saved himself--that way he stays alive and he doesn't accidentally run into Mace Windu.

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white lancer

Dark Sorcerer - Can target one person per day to silence. Once silenced, this person cannot speak for the rest of that day.

I thought I saw this. Thought I should let everyone know. Man these names are confusing the hell out of me.

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chiefsonny
 

Sorry for questioning Rox {:P} gotta do what you gotta do, but you all are right.

Should we have Mace reveal himself so that doesn't happen? I mean, he's basically invincible so that doesn't endanger him, although it does take away the hopeful possibility of the Sith targeting him and losing.

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White Thunder

Not exactly sure where you questioned me...

There is no Dark Sorcerer in this game. Good eye though, chief.

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`Roxas`

Also, so that everybody can see who is in the game (which is everybody) and their role (when revealed) and innocence or guilt:

Xhin (Innocent)
chiefsonny
DragonintheShadow
The Bandit
Redack
Count Dooku
hezekiah
Shadowwalked
Feral (Obi-Wan)
Black Yoshi
Helius
White Thunder
Teddy-Son
`Roxas` (Obi-Wan)
white lancer
CtR Black
MajorasMask9
#85
Zanic

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`Roxas`

But if Yoda does't protect Roxas/Feral there is 100% chance one of them will be converted. Or at least close to it. Right? He knows who they are, and I doubt he'll give up the chance of gaining a cop just because he might die to Jango- especially since there's a 50% chance Jango will just attempt to kill the person he's trying to convert anyway.

And all of that is assuming that Jango continues going after Feral/Roxas, which may not even happen. It's pretty likely, yes, but he might choose a different target.

June 2, 2012
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The Bandit

There is no Dark Sorcerer in this game

Sorry white lancer.{:(}

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chiefsonny
 

Sorry for being gone all day. Been a crazy one for me.

@Chief- If you look back at round one, you will see that I was the Phatom. Roxas got a guilry verdict on me and revealed himself and the verdict. I had to reveal myself and bargain with the town to let me copy Roxas, otherwise I would have been lynched right off the bat.

As far as Silencer goes, Trever told me that when the Dark Lord converts somebody, he can give them any Sith role he wants. So while there may not be a Silencer role now, but one may be added without the town ever knowing.

I know that Redack and Dooku both said their online time would be very sparotic this weekend.

June 2, 2012
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Feral

The Dark Lord can only give them an unused role, that is. The convert cannot copy an occupied role.

June 2, 2012
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Trever Leingod

Gotta get on here more often, I know...

Anyway, nothing to go on = no vote for now. Trever's latest revalation makes this game especially tricky, so much so that throwing out random votes could, in my mind, make or break our chances at outwitting the Sith in this game. It's like playing against a combination Mafia and Cult, wherein the Mafia (Sith) can recruit anyone and assign them a vacant role. Thus we may get a Voodoo Lady equivalent by the time the game ends, which could really screw all of us up.

Therefore we have to be damned careful about who we vote for, rather than voting randomly and hoping to God we catch a Sith.

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Black Yoshi

just gonna random vote

June 2, 2012
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Sir Ike

Thankfully there is no Voodoo role at all in this game because of how hated it was.

June 2, 2012
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Trever Leingod

my bad. but yeah marjorasmask

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CtR Black

Current Tally shows 2 votes.

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chiefsonny
 

Yeah only two votes and yet people voted many no kills earlier?

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Teddy-Son

7 No Kills
1 Not Voting
1 Vote to Kill MM9

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`Roxas`

Thanks for clearing that up Roxas.

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#85

I believe mafia (or sith) would off-handedly try and throw suspicion on someone, for hope of not appearing too obvious.

I live by the saying, go hard or go home. -E40

So i'm voting ole boy white thunder. he's been around long enough to get the hang of things (not my WHOLE reason for voting him)

June 2, 2012
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CtR Black

Random for now.

June 2, 2012
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Helius

Just realized who that vote was for... sorry, a bit tired cause I got off of work.

June 2, 2012
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Helius

Thank you to the medical droid; however do not save me again. I am the Jedi Grandmaster, which makes me effectively immortal at night. Please spend your time saving the cops until we get the dark lord killed. The reason for this is:

0. You reveal yourself once the dark lord is dead
1. I save you
2. You spend one of your saves on me
3. You spend another save on one of the cops

This arrangement will make me, you, and one of the cops immortal. However, the dark lord is capable of turning you over to the dark side. Once the dark lord is dead though, we can work on this arrangement.

Also, I'm going to be pretty much gone from yesterday until monday.

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Xhin
Sky's the limit

Xhin, I checked there is no Jedi Grandmaster which makes me think you are a Sith because you are lying. Either that or the grandmaster is Yoda.

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Teddy-Son

Yoda is also referred to as the Grandmaster, Teddy.

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Trever Leingod

Thanks for telling me before he does. {<00}

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Teddy-Son

You're only immortal if you choose to save yourself each night, right? So now you're forced to protect yourself, but Roxas/Feral can be turned. You were immune to conversions, not killing. So, the MD should use one of his saves on you- making you immortal to everything.

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The Bandit

So now you're forced to protect yourself

I'm retarded or something idk, ignore that.

Here's what I was trying to say:

-You are not immune to murder. If no one protects you, they will murder you.
-You are immune to conversions.
-The MD should protect you, saving you from murder and conversions.

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The Bandit

Bandit has a good point. Unless I completely missed something, Yoda isn't immune to the Sith kill or the Jango Fett kill. You still could be taken out of this game if you're not protected either by yourself or by the MD. Obviously you can't retract your statement right now but I do think we all should be a little more cautious with our role reveals as long as Jango Fett and the Dark Lord are still in the game.

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white lancer

Yoda is also referred to as the Grandmaster, Teddy.

Dammit! I was hoping the Dark Lord would try to convert the "Jedi Grandmaster" and I could force a loophole where he gets revealed. Thanks a lot teddy.

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Xhin
Sky's the limit

~Yawns~ Just woke up. I'll read this later to get caught up. Until then...

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DragonintheShadow

Seems to me there have been more then 5 total votes

June 2, 2012
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chiefsonny
 

Wow, I get the role equivalent to mine of last game, and same goes for Xhin. What are the odds of that?

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`Roxas`

Wait a minute... If Xhin was Yoda, then there would have been a similar situation as Feral for me. I investigated him, yet I had nothing happen to me. He was innocent. This would have to mean that Xhin is the Dark Lord. That's who my vote is going for now.

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`Roxas`

Wait... Hold on a moment. Nevermind. Misunderstood what his role was there. So No Kill instead.

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`Roxas`

I was gonna say, your confusing Yoda with with Mace Windu.

I'll continue holding my vote so as not to force an end to the round.

Since I am not Star Wars savy, I made a list in my notebook of all active roles and what Mafia role they are the equivelent of. It's made things 10 times easier for me on a personal level.

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Feral

Yeah, I realized that after the fact.

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`Roxas`

Anyway, seeing as the roles are probably not random this time around (the guy who always dies gets another immortal role, the cop becomes a cop again, etc), I'm going to assume that Leingod has a sick sense of humor and made Redack the Dark Lord.

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Xhin
Sky's the limit

Also guys, ignore the "Vote Tally by Round". It's too hard to fix now, and I'm going to be extremely busy for the next few days.

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Xhin
Sky's the limit

Anyway, seeing as the roles are probably not random this time around (the guy who always dies gets another immortal role, the cop becomes a cop again, etc), I'm going to assume that Leingod has a sick sense of humor and made Redack the Dark Lord.

That's hardly a sick sense of humor {:P} That's actually quite generous, making the usually-killed off guy a powerful, hard-to-kill role. And if I did that with Redack, that would merely be fitting. {;)} If I really had a sick sense of humor, I would have made you or Roxas the Jedi Outcast so you'd appear guilty while being innocent! {:P}

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Trever Leingod

... Not cool.

June 2, 2012
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`Roxas`

Well you got to be Obi-Wan, would you prefer being the Outcast? 0_0

June 2, 2012
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Trever Leingod

If the roles aren't random, then Dooku is probably Dooku so we should vote him out. Or he's the Spy since he's had the equivalent to that role both times he's played.

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white lancer

Well, Roxas and I can check both Red & Dooku during the night round. See just how obvious Trever made it.

Trever must like me alot since he handed me one of, if not THE, most powerful roles in the game.

June 2, 2012
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Feral

Well Trevor did you have a random number assigner for the roles like Yeano did, or did you pick them?

June 2, 2012
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#85

Trever I think you should stop replying to this thread unless we have a specific question about the rules of the game.

June 2, 2012
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The Bandit

Too bad we don't have Count Dooku role. Then Trever could have made Count Dooku Count Dooku.

June 2, 2012
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Teddy-Son

Except for Xhin it was pretty random. Despite whatever coincidences there are.

No worries Bandit, I am not here for advice now, only answering questions. I want to be a good host after all.

June 2, 2012
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Trever Leingod

^^
How about a update on the vote count since neither one seems to be working.

June 2, 2012
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chiefsonny
 

Looks 9 no-kill votes and some randim votes and a few no-voters. 1 more no-kill vote will end the day round.

June 2, 2012
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Trever Leingod

Just let me know when everybody is ready to end the round, and I'll cast the last "No Kill" vote.

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Feral

If i can get on before day 3 ill at least clear out the votes for the next few rounds so the count tally will work at least. Ill also install a tool in the yeano panel to clear votes out so this wont happen again. I keep forgetting to do that.

June 2, 2012
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Xhin
Sky's the limit

The 24 hour min or 1 full day has passed. I think that is fair unless anyone wants to wait longer.

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chiefsonny
 

I think hezekiah is the only person who hasn't posted today. Wait for him to post at the very least.

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Trever Leingod

Eh ill do it. Cant vote on mobile though (not that it matters since the tallies are screwy).

Xhin changed his vote to No Kill .

June 2, 2012
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Xhin
Sky's the limit

Yeah, let's go ahead and move on, no kill is the obvious consensus.

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White Thunder

I feel bad for moving on. Hezekiah was bummed he missed the last day round, but the 24 hours and 10 needed votes are in. =/ Sorry man. I'll start the night round then.

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Trever Leingod

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