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the love shack

Posted January 17, 2015 by Female Alpha Wolf

Ahh.... Summer love... You can never forget them!

Welcome white lancer and Feral to your lovely home away from home! My, my you two make a wonderful couple~

And how obviously deep in love you are! You two are completely inseparable! However, the Bandits are threatening your plans to elope in Vegas and even killing others in the process! Just the thought of either of you losing your loved one drives you to madness...

With that said, if either one of you do happen to be murdered, the surviving Lover becomes filled with rage and is given a gift from above. With this gift, the surviving Lover is able to exact sweet revenge (or perhaps cause a terrible accident) upon their love's killer ONE time! This can either be used during the Day round or at Night.

But let's hope that doesn't happen!

And I~~ will always loooove yoooooooou~~

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An extra note Lovers:

The one time gift must be used in the next Day or Night round after one of you is killed. It can't be held onto for multiple rounds.

You're blinded with rage after all!

January 17, 2015
Female Alpha Wolf

Understood.

This is good. Me and Lancer can work well together.

January 17, 2015
Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

Hello, my darling Feral! Ready fir a fun train ride?

I like the themed games--we really should have more of those because just the little tweak to the usual 'people in a small town getting picked off' makes it feel a lot less samey. I'm looking forward to our jaunt through the Wild West! :)

January 17, 2015
white lancer

...wow, stupid autocorrect. *for, not fir!

January 17, 2015
white lancer

I know what you meant. And seeing as this is my first game in like half a year, I'm very fresh, though likely a tad bit rusty.

January 17, 2015
Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

HMMM
This round is seeming to make an unexpected turn... WE STILL GOT 24 MORE HOURS THO

January 19, 2015
Female Alpha Wolf

Maybe, but I'm winning them back. Everybody expects me to blow a gasket at the slightest accusation as I have done in the past, but I'm a lot more level headed and calm minded then I was before.

I think that by shrugging the joking accusation off and not changing my vote to save myself, I came off as less suspicious. Even Speed doesn't want me lynched yet.

January 19, 2015
Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

We have to be careful. I don't think being lynched activates our kill.

January 20, 2015
Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

Kinda putting my head out there to protect you. Hate to create any sort of bandwagon on Ghow or Xhin with no evidence or suspicion, but better one of them then you.

January 22, 2015
Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

Busy, busy, busy. I finally get a role like this with a some collaboration possibilities and I can't be as active as I'd like...I'll try to be better.

Our kill is not really very useful anyway unless it comes later in the game IMO. I probably wouldn't even use it this early unless I had a pretty good suspicion of someone...which I currently don't, how about you?

January 23, 2015
white lancer

Not really. CTR is as good a bandwagon as any, and he seems to be digging himself deeper. If he does turn out to be innocent, I'll probably wind up lynched tomorrow.

January 23, 2015
Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

I'm as good as dead. May be time to roll claim. Better Mafia killed then lynched...

January 24, 2015
Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

You seem to be fine so far. But yeah, definitely better to roleclaim if it looks like you're about to be lynched.

January 26, 2015
white lancer

Well, it helps that Ghow is basically painting a bull's eye on his chest at the moment with his baseless accusations and constant vote changing.

January 26, 2015
Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

FAW, as I said in the main thread, we got a massive blizzard coming in tonight. If I don't post anywhere on the site tomorrow, it means I probably lost power and request to be hostk illed so as not to hold up the game.

Lancer, I apologize ahead of time if that does happen. Maybe FAW will let you murder the blizzard in blind rage. ;)

January 26, 2015
Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

I'm trying to figure out if Ghow might be the Journalist. Based on the way the articles have been written, I might have guessed Speed or Xhin, but it doesn't seem like Speed to try to get Hindy lynched so early and Xhin was mentioned in the last article. Could be Kyon, I guess, which would explain why the first article came so late in the day, but he's not known for going after Hindy either. The main points against Ghow being the Journalist are the writing style and the late article, since he's obviously very active, but that style seems like it could fit him more than just about anyone else, and he's been the only person really interested in following the Journalist's lead.

I would be stunned if the Journalist was Flare or chief. Bandit seems unlikely, too, given how adamant he's been against trusting the Journalist. Maybe it could be Jo, or maybe Hindenburg screwing with us. I guess I could see Lightvayne as well, but probably not EvilGuy.

January 27, 2015
white lancer

Chaos Incarnate would actually fit the pattern pretty well--he was quiet the second day (fitting the late article) and showed up pretty close to the Journalist article on the next day. Him not participating much could be an indicator that he's just not interested in actually catching the Mafia, befitting a third-party role. The only problem with that theory is that the articles have had quite a bit of care to them, so I'm not sure the Journalist is that disinterested this game.

January 27, 2015
white lancer

I'm going to vote for him. Could get a reaction, but mostly I want to take out inactive players at this point.

January 27, 2015
white lancer

Got a reaction all right! You single handedly took out the Janitor! Awesome!

Based on the way this bandwagon played out, I am fairly certain Speed and Ghow are not-Mafia. I still think Ghow is the Journalist. I'm also feeling good about Bandit.

January 27, 2015
Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

Heh. It was a bit of a shot in the dark, but I figured he was unlikely to be a power role since he seemed so inactive and he could definitely be a Mafia member flying under the radar. I feel a little silly that I didn't notice the Janitor didn't use his power last night--that should have been a pretty good clue that he was a less-active player. Fast bandwagon, but when he showed up only not to bother defending himself I felt our chances were pretty good. Unfortunately I don't think he gave us much info in his posts thus far, but you're right that the way the votes shook out gives us at least a little information (though obviously not confirmed either way).

I could easily see me dying tonight due to looking pretty innocent after leading that vote. Hopefully I'll get the chance to review the threads for potential suspicious activity before the night round ends.

January 28, 2015
white lancer

Also wondering a little bit about chief. It's far from a strong suspicion at this point as it could have easily been an honest mistake, but it's notable that he left Chaos off his list of inactive players earlier. It seems too risky to come up with a list like that and deliberately leave your fellow Mafia members off of it, but it could be that Chaos was more active in the Mafia thread so he just didn't notice his inactivity. I'll have to look at his other posts to see if anything looks suspicious.

January 28, 2015
white lancer

Hmmm...

Worth looking into.

January 28, 2015
Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

No real time to look into it now, but I think the people who jumped on the bandwagon a little later deserve a closer look. I could definitely see Jo being Mafia, for instance, though I haven't reviewed his posts.

January 28, 2015
white lancer

My thought of train exactly. I am suspicious of Flare myself.

January 28, 2015
Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

If you die, I am going to use my kill on Chief. He has your suspicion AND is on our bandwagon list.

January 29, 2015
Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

I could be in serious trouble come morning, being as I was the one guy who actually defended Hindy. I'm gonna have to role claim either way, but if you die tonight, I can use that to prove my innocents by telling everybody who I am going to kill before killing them in the day.

Unfortunately, I think Hindy's death clears Chief. He was pretty adamant about Hindy dying.

February 2, 2015
Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

On second look, it was Ghow who wanted Hindy dead, not Chief. Chief, in fact, was quite resistant, focusing more on Ghow's idiocy. Of the three people he nominated, we know I am innocent, and everybody else was already wary of Ghow's insanity and didn't take him seriously, leaning more toward innocent there.

Chief is probably still my best kill target at this point.

Jo has been eerily quiet this game. May be worth looking into as well.

February 2, 2015
Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

Sorry--I was Silenced that round. I think I'm pretty likely to die this day round--that seems to be the Mafia pattern this game (i.e. PN was silenced and Lightvayne was likely silenced the day before they died). I'm thinking JN is the most suspicious--it's notable that both he and Hindy were trying to paint Ghowilo as suspicious and pushing for that lynch. If Ghow is the Gambler (and I believe that claim is pretty likely--false claiming Gambler is very high-risk unless hezy was the Gambler), then I feel more comfortable looking at JN. He's been very, very passive this game apart from the targeting of Ghow. Chief could still very much be guilty, although I'll have to double-check his posts in regard to Hindy.

February 2, 2015
white lancer

Going back, I could definitely see chief being Mafia. I think Bandit and Ghow are probably innocent. I'd guess Speed as innocent as well based on his quick vote for Chaos. Jo, chief, Flare, EvilGuy, and Kyon seem most likely to me, although I obviously can't rule anyone out for sure besides the two of us.

February 2, 2015
white lancer

Silenced, really? Hate to say it, but FAW dropped the ball again. Telling everybody PN was silenced day 1, then not apologizing for goofing and alerting us to the change is unfair, especially since the Mafia, who were aware, took advantage of this fact to kill all the people they silenced, making it impossible for the town to know if the silencer was active. Not a game killer, but she needs to alert the town that the silencer HAS been acting.

Additionally, it LightVayne WAS silenced on Day 2, he should be awarded a pity point for getting screwed over by the hosts' failure to rectify the mistake they made.

FAW, you need to let the town know that from this point onward, you will NOT be revealing who was silenced at the beginning of the round. I know I'm being hard on you, but you will be a MUCH better host next time since you will be able to reflect on your slips and be able to handle them better.

February 2, 2015
Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

She did let us know that she was doing it differently when I asked her about it the last day round. It was a quick response and easy to miss, but it was there.

Anyway, with Himdy going out of his way to try to paint Ghow as suspicious, I'm looking at people who have done the same. Jo, chief, and Speed at least have looked at Ghow for lynching. Hmm...

February 2, 2015
white lancer

Also kinda funny that Lightvayne was lying about Hindy after all--he wouldn't have seen him go anywhere since he was the Godfather.

I would expect myself and Bandit to be the most likely kills over the next couple of nights. It would be good for the Watcher to reveal soon, I think, unless they just don't have any good information. They could at least potentially help us narrow down the Silencer, especially if we assume Lightvayne was silenced the other day (as I recall, if someone was silenced it was him or Xhin, and Xhin hasn't said anything along those lines).

February 2, 2015
white lancer

More evidence that Ghow is probably telling the truth about being the Gambler:

I just hope y'all change your minds about killing me, seems like if I die or not is really at the mercy of a dice-roll these days. I won't dispute it, but I will be very very sad and probably never play mafia again.

The part about the dice-roll could very much be a hint about being the Gambler, and this was Day 1 (before anyone had died). The other interesting thing about this is that chief later made a comment about people posting hints about their roles, so maybe he picked up on this...yet later he attempts to cast suspicion on Ghow. I'm wondering if Lightvayne (or hezy) posted anything that might have given a hint that they were a power role--the Mafia seemed to peg Lightvayne as the Journalist fairly quickly, especially if my guess that he was silenced is correct.

If Ghow is innocent, I'm a little less suspicious of Lady Flare, as she said early on she was about 90% sure that he was innocent (as opposed to Hindenburg and probably at least one of Jo, chief, and Speed, who attempted to cast suspicion on him). My current theory is that the Mafia may have seen Ghow as an easy lynch target and attempted to subtly convince the Town to vote him off. I don't know that the entire Mafia was actively pursuing this route, as it seems a risky line of play, but it's conceivable and it would seem strange for Flare to undermine that strategy when she didn't really need to. Could be an attempt to look less suspicious when Ghow turned up innocent, but...

Xhin and Kyon are still candidates. Xhin seems to have been targeted by the Journalist and didn't visit anyone (at least, that was my interpretation of the report), which would only rule him out of being the Silencer, I believe. There was some other reason I found him a little less suspicious, but I don't remember what it was. Kyon has been quiet and I don't really have anything on him.

February 2, 2015
white lancer

Not much to go off of with EvilGuy, either, though he has been more active than Kyon. I don't really get much of a guilty vibe from him so far, but that could just be lack of data.

February 2, 2015
white lancer

On second thought re: EvilGuy, he hasn't voted at all yet. He also agreed with Speed's point about Ghow being a distraction for the rest of the Mafia, so he's back on my 'suspicious' list. I'd slot him in at fourth behind Jo, chief, and Speed. Xhin, on the other hand, was convinced that Ghow was innocent during this day round. It's kinda annoying that most of my analysis is completely wrong if Ghow is Mafia after all, but there seem to be good reasons for believing his Gambler claim.

Kyon was quick on the Hindenburg bandwagon this past day round. Make of that what you will--obviously Speed was fast to vote for Chaos and I still find him suspicious.

February 2, 2015
white lancer

I was a little worried that Jo might be a power role trying to lie low instead of being Mafia, but his response was limp enough that I'm a little less worried about it now. If he's a power role, he will roleclaim, and I can switch to voting for chief or maybe Kyon (because not very active).

February 5, 2015
white lancer

At this point, it seems like me, Xhin, and Ghow are the only ones fully active(I know you are mad busy). And Ghow is just straight up impatient(not unlike me back in the ealy Mafia days).

Jo, Chief, Flare, Evilguy. I'm up for any at this point.

February 5, 2015
Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

I know I'm being hard on you, but you will be a MUCH better host next time


Oh I'm never hosting again. It's too stressful. People yelling at me about stuff isn't fun.

February 5, 2015
Female Alpha Wolf

This lack of dialogue is making me very nervous. Often that's a sign of the Mafia just sitting back and letting the Town do their dirty work...but Jo is not exactly defending himself, either. I'm kinda expecting at least one last-minute vote to save himself, although it doesn't feel like they're close enough to winning to coordinate votes yet.

Flare, chief, Kyon, or Speed could be silenced. It's especially strange not to hear from Speed and chief at this point.

February 5, 2015
white lancer

Either the Mafia are kicking themselves for leaving me alive or they're rejoicing because I'm accidentally helping them win, haha. It's tough because we just don't have much to go on with a number of the unknown players. I'm pretty confident Ghow is safe and I think Flare seems reasonably innocent so far, but there's a very small margin between her, Speed, and Xhin in my mind, and it's entirely possible that Jo and chief seem more likely Mafia just because we have a bit more to go on with them. I'm always second-guessing myself in this game and it's so agonizing waiting to find out if you're actually right!

February 5, 2015
white lancer

Ugh, if it turns out that Jo, chief, and EvilGuy are all Mafia and manage to force a tie, I'm going to be quite frustrated. Especially if the tie happens because Xhin forgets to cast a relevant vote despite being one of the potential targets. I really have no idea if he's innocent or guilty, but a tie is just horrible for us here.

February 5, 2015
white lancer

If Xhin is Innocent, one of us dying tonight might be the Town's best chance at actually winning the game. I suggest taking out chief if that winds up being the case.

If he's Guilty, my reads have been pretty off, but chief is giving me major Guilty vibes this game. He keeps harping on things that don't matter at all to the current gamestate, and he's refused to actually give reasons for what he's doing. Super fishy. I don't have a good read on Xhin at all (he could be a power role, actually), but chief looking so suspicious is making me feel like Xhin is innocent.

February 5, 2015
white lancer

Yeah, Chief is the plan if our kill comes into play.

The best bet for our kill is for the one using it to do so during the day, and tell everybody before hand they they are using it, so to prove their innocence. It's the perfect proven role claim and potentially takes out a Mafia at the same time.

If not one of us(likely you), the only other night kill that makes any sense is Flare, simply because she has been playing under the radar. The rest of the us are seen as potential suspects.

February 5, 2015
Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

I'm hoping Flare is the Doctor and saves herself. I'm really hoping Xhin isn't the Doctor. He hasn't been around since votes started coming at him (besides Ghowilo's), so he wouldn't even really have had a chance to claim.

February 6, 2015
white lancer

Shit, looks like your worst fear came true, and I have to throw myself into the line of fire to prevent our doc possibly dying. With my forcing a tie, this is going to get very ugly very quick...

February 6, 2015
Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

Well, best case scenario now is Xhin telling the truth, the Mafia going after him, and he blocking there kill, thus basically extending the current day another 36 hours...

February 6, 2015
Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

Oy. Worst case scenario for sure. I still think Flare was likely Silenced, but it would have been nice if Kyon and/or Speed had been around to participate. I don't know what happened to Speed that round--he made the very first post and then disappeared.

FAW, I have a question: if one of us dies and the other one is Silenced on the same night, will the one who is Silenced still get to kill someone?

February 6, 2015
white lancer

What pisses me off is that Kyon is actually online right now, according to the Recent Users. He just can't be bothered to check in on the game more then once a day.

On the plus side, this kind of disinterest is typically a sign of his being a vanilla townie.

February 6, 2015
Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

Also worth noting is that if Xhin was telling the truth, chief attempted to throw suspicion on three different power roles in a row (Ghowilo--Gambler; You--Lover; and now Xhin--Doctor). He's either Mafia or has very bad instincts this game.

Interesting that Jo did not show up to vote last minute. I thought that would happen for sure.

February 6, 2015
white lancer

Lets look at our remaining players a bit closer:

Me and you- Lovers- 100% innocent.

Xhin- Doctor claim

Ghow- Gambler Claim(unopposed)

Flare- Silenced, almost certainly innocent

Speed- Very quick to jump on several bandwagons of guilty players. Unlikely to be Mafia.

Kyon- Showing strong disinterest in this game, a sign of being a vanilla townie.

The leaves our three top suspects- Chief, Jo, and EvilGuy.

Not only are those three the most suspicious, but EVERY other player has signs pointing to them being innocent. I think we got this.

February 6, 2015
Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

Alright, I just made a HUGE power move, hopefully putting the remaining Mafia on edge. I revealed my role, but didn't identify you as my partner. I'm not worried about getting killed tonight since it will give you opportunity to take one of them out.

Doctor or not, it is HIGHLY unlikely Xhin will be killed tonight. It will likely be you, Flare, or Speed. If the Mafia plays very safe, they will eliminate Ghow to avoid risking our kill being activated, since he is the only non-Mafia they know they can safely kill.

February 6, 2015
Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

Yeah, I think the Mafia will figure out that I'm the other Lover just based on your post--you said that we had the game figured out, and most of the other Townspeople weren't active enough to have been collaborating with you. Hopefully it won't be a big deal, though. I'd still like an answer to the question I asked FAW earlier--it would be a major bummer if we lost access to our kill due to being Silenced. I wouldn't be shocked if the Mafia were asking that as well.

Looking at the list of suspects, it does seem vastly more likely that the Mafia are chief, EvilGuy, and Jo. We can probably rule Kyon out at this point and I think Flare is likely innocent as well (I don't think the Mafia would want to silence one of their own at that late stage of the game). Plus, given what happened that day round, it really seemed like the Mafia were making a push to take advantage of the general inactivity and Ghowilo's witch hunt to get the win, and it almost worked, so good on them. I'm always second-guessing in this game, so I'm still a little nervous about Speed (mostly because his actions the day I was Silenced seemed a little off and because he wasn't around that last day round), but you're right that he jumped on the Chaos bandwagon so quickly that he's unlikely to be Mafia (especially given how important of a role the Janitor is). Our best bet by far is to go with our analysis and hit chief, EvilGuy, and Jo.

February 6, 2015
white lancer

Also it feels unlikely that they kill Ghow because their best chance probably lies in convincing him to side with them--they've been able to manipulate him so far. Hopefully Xhin's Doctor claim will convince him to look elsewhere. Also hopefully Xhin is telling the truth about being the Doctor, but I kinda felt like he might be the Doc even before he claimed (he encouraged the Watcher to come out early, which would make sense for the Doc to do). I don't think we have the luxury of worrying about him lying, with the No Kill happening that day, unless he manages to save someone tonight.

February 6, 2015
white lancer

I'd still like an answer to the question I asked FAW earlier--it would be a major bummer if we lost access to our kill due to being Silenced.


I'm sorry I didn't see it.

If you're Silenced, you can still use your kill during the day round. Of course I'll post for you (whether you're silenced or not) so you can't really say anything after lol

February 6, 2015
Female Alpha Wolf

Awesome, thanks FAW!

February 6, 2015
white lancer

When Lancer was silenced before, he couldn't post here, so if we DO need to use our kill while silenced, we will PM you, FAW.

And I want to apologize for being an ass to you, FAW. I have a habit of taking this game way to serious and picking on every little slip. You are truly doing awesome for a first time host.

February 6, 2015
Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

If you are wondering, the reason I added you to the list of people "we" thought might die, it's an attempt to make the Mafia think my partner is Kyon, a very odd couple considering we don't get along in real life. Don't know how well it will work, but hopefully it will keep them guessing.

February 7, 2015
Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

I know you are silenced. That also proves Speed's innocents. With him and Flare both cleared, I think we have this game finished. So, now that we have solid proof that Chief is the Silencer, we can get him out of the way and and the silencings once and for all(though it will likely take the full 36 hours since you can't vote.

Just relax this round.

February 7, 2015
Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

Ah...there is no better feeling in this game than finding out that you correctly figured it out. It feels a little bit like we've been dominating this game. :) Chief and the other Mafia played it correctly, I think--they quite possibly could have won the game had they forced the lynch through on Xhin, and they had a good shot of doing so thanks to Ghowilo. It was a good thing I kept my vote on Jo and you were around when Xhin claimed.

Yes, I was silenced that round, and I'm still wanting to go Jo and then EvilGuy. I'm not especially convinced by EvilGuy's posts thus far. There is technically still a chance that Speed could be Mafia (obviously the Mafia would know that chief visited me last night), but that seems unlikely. Especially given how disconnected he's been with the game. Rotten luck for the Mafia, though, if those claims are true--it really sucks to hit not a single power role (other than the third-party Eccentric Mystery Writer) with your Nightkills. They've done really well despite that.

February 8, 2015
white lancer

Life, sweet life! That gives us a nice cushion while we attempt to wrap this game up. :)

February 9, 2015
white lancer

Hate to break it to you, but I HIGHLY doubt you were the target. The story in the OP doesn't mean anything other then nobody died. The Mafia would have been stupid to attempt to take you out knowing full well that I would react today, when they have to much better targets in Xhin and Speed. It's much more likely one of them was the target.

With all due respect to my love, it would also have been dumb for Xhin to protect either of us with two more more valuable roles still alive and revealed.

February 9, 2015
Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

I really do wish to kill off Kyon before EG. Even if EG is the final Mafia, he deserves a better finish then Kyon.

February 9, 2015
Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

I would rather kill EG and get the game over with, tbh. Although, yeah, I wouldn't mind if Kyon was Hostkilled.

February 9, 2015
white lancer

Maybe Kyon should just be host killed. If he is Mafia, then there is no point in dragging the game on any longer. If he is a Townie, his death wouldn't matter one way or the other.

He hasn't spoken is 3 rounds now, and was not at all constructive in the few times he spoke in the early rounds. He doesn't deserve any survival points.

February 9, 2015
Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

I still think it's unlikely Kyon is Mafia, but if he is it's a little unfair for him to be allowed not to post in the main thread at all for three rounds (granted, the last two rounds were pretty quick). I'd say we just go for EG if anyone dies tonight, as it doesn't feel like Kyon's active enough to pull the trigger on anyone. If the Mafia don't attempt to kill anyone tonight, I'm fine taking a day round to kill Kyon...but I do imagine the people in the Dead Thread are eager for us to finish the game ASAP.

February 9, 2015
white lancer

I regret to inform you White Lancer that your Lover has been found dead upon the train...

Now don't get angry... you know what you do when you get angry.. You kill a certain... someone.

Who was that someone again?

February 10, 2015
Female Alpha Wolf

That someone will be EvilGuy, in honor of my dear departed Feral! HE SHALL BE AVENGED!

February 10, 2015
white lancer

We were so close to making it to the end together. (cry)

February 10, 2015
white lancer

Heh, and this is why I didn't want to waste a lynch on Kyon--I couldn't be 100% sure on EG and this way inactivity doesn't play such a huge role in the game. I've got a question for you, FAW:

I don't see if people leave, I only see who visits them. In the case of last night, Xhin had no visitors. But did he leave his house? Absolutely, since he saved white lancer. However, since no one visited him, I received no results to report. The only way I can use my power to track down mafia is if I happen to watch the person they kill since they're down to just mafioso.

Was Speed telling the truth about not seeing if people leave their houses when he visits them? I only ask because that's not how the Watcher role has worked in the past. To clarify: if Xhin were the Doctor and he chose to save someone in the night, and Speed visited Xhin, would he have seen Xhin leave the house?

Xhin isn't 100% cleared--I exaggerated on that a little bit. It could be that the Doctor is dead and the Mafia simply decided not to kill anyone that one night in order to lend credence to Xhin's roleclaim. But I'm deciding to ignore that simply because it seems the least probable outcome--clearly the Mafia (or at least chief) attempted to get Xhin lynched in favor of Jo Nathan, so he seems more likely innocent...not to mention that the story the night no one died heavily, heavily implied that the Doctor had saved me. It seems much better to choose between Ghow and Speed.

February 10, 2015
white lancer

Looks like we have this one. Now on to Vegas so I can bury my beloved and get uproariously drunk with Ghowilo the Gambler and Xhin the Doctor.

February 11, 2015
white lancer

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