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the star wars republic game 1 sith thread 3

Posted June 7, 2012 by Trever Leingod

You guys talk a LOT! {:P}

Count Dooku - Dark Lord
Redack - Dooku
#85 - Droid Spy
Helius - Sith Probe Droid
`Roxas` - General Grievous
white lancer - Dark Sorcerer/Silencer

I am giving you guys an extra thread for the same reason as last time.

Good luck, gentlemen.

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Okay Xehanort, Maleficent, Vanitas, and the many Ansems that exist.

Redack will suffice.

I say kill Shadow, silence Bandit, check whoever and convert whoever.

The main thing is removing shadow as he can kill us and could do so randomly. Bandit is being very vocal and whilst I don't think he's on to us (other than Lancer and Roxas) he's pretty smart and pretty vocal, a bad combination :)

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Redack

Trever, can you address my questions/etc from the last thread?

Also, good game to you Roxas if this happens to be your final night.

IF you survive, I would suggest that you claim that Lancer is actually the Medical Droid. And that you two were lying to protect him from being killed (as the mafia wouldn't target Windu for killing).

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Count Dooku

Ok, official check is Majora.

Official vote kill is Shadow.

#85
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Wednesday, Jun 6, 2012 -- 8:38pm
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I vote to kill the Bandit... will change if the majority feels differently.

No reason.



Bantha Fodder: Helius
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Wednesday, Jun 6, 2012 -- 8:45pm
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Good game if you dont make it Roxas.

#85
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Wednesday, Jun 6, 2012 -- 8:56pm
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Oh, I know I won't make it unless Zanic is Yoda.




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Wednesday, Jun 6, 2012 -- 9:00pm
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Trever, this is rather important:

Is White Thunder the same role as he was last night? Meaning, essentially, when you swapped Xhin's role to someone else is it possible you swapped it to White Thunder?

Because I'm going to convert White Thunder, the Jedi Knight, into a Droid Trooper.

Alternatively, if you would allow it, I would have White Thunder become Grevious in the event that we lose Roxas. But that may be cheating or something, I dunno.

Kill Shadowwalked, who claims to be the arsonist, because the less roles that can kill us the better.

Investigate MM9... hopefully he's the vig.


Count Dooku
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Wednesday, Jun 6, 2012 -- 9:07pm
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@Dooku:

Yoda protected Roxas last night so White Thunder definitely would have shown up as Yoda if he already was, naturally.

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Trever Leingod

It's not easy being Sith...

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Helius

That's mostly the important, recent stuff from the last thread. Your answer is at the bottom Dooku.

Again guys, though you're all likely to win, very good game. Dooku, Redack and Roxas especially.

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Trever Leingod

What of converting White Thunder to Grevious this night? Is that possible if our Grevious dies before my turn comes up or must we wait until next round?

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Count Dooku

I think you have to wait until next round. Technically you wouldn't know Roxas is dead until the morning, so your character wouldn't think he needs a replacement beforehand. Obviously it takes some thinking, as this isn't clear in the rules since I didn't foresee people replacing a lost role. I should make a policy on that next time around. Thank you for bringing it to mind, Dooku.

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Trever Leingod

HELIUS!!!!! IMPORTANT!!!!!

I say you use your Janitor ability on Roxas.

The role says anyone who dies during the night round can have their body hidden.

The town will be in utter disarray if they don't know what Roxas was.

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Count Dooku

So whats Majora?

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#85

Also, fair enough Trever. I figured it would be a bit of an exploit if we could make another instantly :P

So White Thunder the Jedi Knight will be our Droid Trooper. I'll lock that in if you want to reveal MM9 for #85.

But seriously Helius, say you'll hide Roxas's body.

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Count Dooku

That is a sneaky thing to do.

I will then do so. I will hide Roxas identity.

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Helius

Great idea Dooku

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#85

The town will be in utter disarray if they don't know what Roxas was.

*coughMVPcough*

So whats Majora?

Jedi Knight, aka, NOT the Voodoo Lady {:P}

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Trever Leingod

Trever, I'm posting this here because I feel someone might jump on it as a "Redack's Sith and doesn't want to lose" comment. The exact same thing Hezekiah did last time when I suggested we shouldn't end the game.

Could you stop conversing with the players? Answer their questions by all means, but stop discussing things with them. I can completely understand its probably quite difficult to detach yourself from it, but please stop.

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Redack

So I was right in my initial suspicion of Zanic or Bandit being something big.

Chief is something too.

Interesting to see what moves they are going to make.

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#85

Personally I like being a bit more of a talkative host. It's very involving. But you're right, I do talk too much. I apologize.

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Trever Leingod

I don't mind the talking Trever, so long as you keep it very general and without taking sides.

My only real issue is what you've put here:

Teddy-Son - Mace Windu. Tragically executed to expose his enemies.

You've all but confirmed Roxas and Lancer were Sith, making any attempt for them to claim that Roxas was protecting the Medical Droid (Lancer, obviously a lie) from being killed at Night harder to make.

The current power roles remaining for the Jedi:

Yoda: Was Xhin, someone new?
Anakin: Possibly Chiefsony?
Arsonist: Shadowwalked?
Organa: Possibly Chiefsony?

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Count Dooku

Zanic or Bandit, literally one of them have to have a power role. We should try to get bandit lynched.

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#85

I just feel you're dropping accidental hints occasionally. Im not gonna get mad if it causes us to lose or anything, just would be dissapointing if we lost members due to it rather than poor (or good) playing.

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Redack

That's not taking sides so much as reporting what happened - Teddy was executed for that, but I didn't mention names. So far whatever hints I may have dropped were not obvious enough to make a change, since you guys are clearly winning. However, I do see your point, and I am going to make a point to be more reserved in the future.

I would have been a much better host this game if I just shut up more. As usual, I have to warm up to something new before I get it right. Hopefully next game I will be as good as Yeano.

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Trever Leingod

Also Trever, could you confirm if the Yoda role issue was dealt with. As in, has it been swapped. I don't mind if you answer this in the main thread so long as you don't say "Redack asked in another thread" or anything incriminating {:P}

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Redack

White Thunder is a problem. -_-

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Helius

We have a small issue that me and Redack have just realized.

Roxas randomly claimed that Teddy was innocent when we converted him. Unfortunately White Thunder, who won't be a Sith until day, has just figured out that Roxas was lying when we said Teddy and me were innocent... because they can't have investigated Teddy.

:P Night Talk is going to get me killed

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Count Dooku

Technically I can't confirm Xhin was Yoda to begin with {:P} I'm trying not to make any mishaps this game, I've made enough.

White Thunder is a problem. -_-

Yeah he definitely stumbled onto something didn't he...

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Trever Leingod

:p Well, I'm trying to convince him otherwise.

And that is a small problem.

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Helius

At the risk of sounding frantic Trever, how long until Night Round is over :P

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Count Dooku

White Thunder is a non-issue. He'll be ours by morning :)

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Redack

Roxas randomly claimed that Teddy was innocent when we converted him. Unfortunately White Thunder, who won't be a Sith until day, has just figured out that Roxas was lying when we said Teddy and me were innocent... because they can't have investigated Teddy.

Technically he was telling the truth. You both WOULD appear innocent upon checking.

I suppose it would really suck if Night Talk did you in, but it seemed appropriate with what a short Day Round we had.

I have to wait until all night actions in to end it.

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Trever Leingod

You guys are making the evil tear up inside me.



Seriously though, it has been an honor serving with each of you this game.

And gosh, wouldn't it be something if they start thinking I was still the Cop after this? {;)}

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`Roxas`

Actually, we could have investigated him on Night Two. Feral was still alive to get his in (which was Dooku) and mine (which was Redack). I just took a stab in the dark that Teddy was innocent. {:P}

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`Roxas`

You guys picked out the two Sith power roles early on. Had you lived to serve the Jedi, that might have changed the game entirely.

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Trever Leingod

What part of "Let's forge an alliance through conversion with the Sith" did you not understand, Trever? {:P}

And wow, Zanic. Genius thinking that may help my cause! I really hope that he is Yoda; otherwise, I'm gone.

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`Roxas`

Tear that dead thread up for us

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#85

What part of "Let's forge an alliance through conversion with the Sith" did you not understand, Trever?

Hence why I said if you lived to serve the Jedi {:P} Clearly you both preferred to serve the Sith rather than die.

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Trever Leingod

Oh, I shall if Feral hasn't caused a complete shitstorm there already. {8D}

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`Roxas`

Pretty much. {;)} I'm just so tired of always being town-sided, until a conversion role comes along (Cult in Game Three and DL in this game).

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`Roxas`

I suppose it would really suck if Night Talk did you in, but it seemed appropriate with what a short Day Round we had.

I'll not hold a grudge if it does :P Like any good Dark Lord, I'm certain things are well under control.

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Count Dooku

{:P} You're a good sport and player, Dooku. Kudos to you.

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Trever Leingod

Be glad you got to be cop lol. I wanna be cop or vig. I am literally always either mafia or regular townie lol.

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#85

Still can't believe I got the same damn role as last time. Don't get me wrong, it's awesome, but still.

And holy shit, if I could give Zanic all the awards right now, I would. He just opened up a HUGE advantage for me.

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`Roxas`

On the contrary, he's almost screwing his own team over. He doesn't get awards for that {:P}

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Trever Leingod

We mind has well of converted Zanic{troll}

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#85

And if he is Yoda, as I suspect he may well be, then I am home free. He is giving me something to work off of and stay alive. Now if Bandit would just pay attention long enough to see what I am saying.

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`Roxas`

I feel terrible for using Zanic in this manner, but it must be done. He's a much, much better player than I would have expected back in Game Three.

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`Roxas`

Just so you know, the Sith Kill is the only night action left to do. Everybody else is set.

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Feral

Oh... wow -_- TREEEEEEEVER!

KILL SHADOWWALKED

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Count Dooku

So far, I'm seeing 4 kill votes cast:

Roxas for Shadow
#85 for Shadow
Helius for Bandit
Redack for Shadow

One more for Shadow would end the night, otherwise y'all can drag it out for quite a while longer before moving on to Day 5. Personally, I'm sick of this game.

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hezekiah

Shadowwalk is my kill vote as well, and I'm hiding Roxas body if he dies.

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Helius

Shadowwalked: 4 (`Roxas`, #85, Count Dooku, Redack)
Bandit: 1 (Helius)

white lancer is the final one, but it makes no difference. Shadowwalked has the majority, plus the DL voting to kill him.

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`Roxas`

There's vote five for Shadowwalked.

Let the games begin.

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`Roxas`

And Count Dooku makes 4 for Shadow. Guess that's all the night roles.

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hezekiah

As I said in the main thread, Dooku's vote effectivly ends the game. Ratio is now 6-6.

Sith: Red, Dooku, Helius, Thunder, Lancer, 85

Jedi: Xhin, Chief, Yoshi, Majora, Zanic, Bandit.

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Feral

Oh yeah, Congratulations, Sith!

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Feral

Oh, wow... They didn't go for Lancer.

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Helius

Drat. Second time I get killed on the final night. {:/}

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`Roxas`

And f course I overlooked something and ruined the game premarurly. I shouldn't have done Trever's job...

Anyway, game SHOUDN'T be over, though I have no idea how Trever will handle this mess I made once he is done skinning me alive.

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Feral

As a precautionary measure... NO posting congratulatory remarks in the main thread just in case the game isn't over. It has me a bit weary that they are talking in the Host thread.

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Helius

Trever, if what Feral said about you waiting on the Sith kill is true, I believe you should disallow any vote changes that occur after Feral claimed the game was over. Clearly some of the town-sided roles picked poorly and killed off their own, but they may change their votes now that they think they've screwed up and ended the game.

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Count Dooku

People who die should have to stay in the dead thread, mod or not {:/}

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#85

Too late. Teddy revealed some stuff before I could retract. I'm afraid the game is unsalvagable.

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Feral

And this is exactly why I was going to make a complaint after this game is over.

I was talking to Dooku the other day saying this EXACT thing would happen and look, it happened.

Thanks for giving me the proof I needed to make my complaint, Feral :)

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Redack

Feral, or Hezekia, if you have the power to do so please LOCK the main Night thread. Trever needs to sort this out when he comes back.

LOCK

THE

NIGHT

THREAD

DOWN

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Count Dooku

I can't. Locking/stickying/title edited doesn't work on my DS.

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Feral

I locked the thread. More coming shortly.

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hezekiah

More screwups by people that should never have been hosts in a game they're playing in maybe {;)}

I believe we'll still win regardless of this, but you two should never have been hosts in this game. You should also (along with teddy) not have posted anywhere other than the dead thread regarding the game. Or are you both above the rules suddenly?

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Redack

They are LLight. No other explanation. {:P}

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`Roxas`

At least LLight has the excuse of being a troubleshooter and he was never a host so he was finding legit exploits and then reporting them.

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Redack

What have I done to fuck with the game? Please, answer me that.

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hezekiah

Shut it, Redack. Trever OKed it. It was not easy holding myself for two whole rounds, with how the game played out. It also didn't help that I have been dealing with a bruised ego since I was where you and Dooku agreed that you would rather have me dead that a Sith because I am "unstable".

And don't blame Teddy. He thought the game was over when he posted.

You are what is known as a sore-winner. You won the damn game but are pissed that you didn't win it perfectly.

I like and respect you, but I just can't deal with you right now.

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Feral

I have been dealing with a bruised ego since I was where you and Dooku agreed that you would rather have me dead that a Sith because I am "unstable".

That isn't really how it happened.

My concern was that we didn't know if you were still the Ghoul, or had turned into a cop. I wasn't willing to risk getting revealed if I said 'Feral the Cop' and you were actually 'Feral the Ghoul'.

So we voted to kill you, just to get rid of a cop. Because we were certain Roxas would be protected but tried anyway. Fortunately for us Roxas wasn't.

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Count Dooku

I've been talking to Yeano about how to handle this situation. I'll be getting things explained as best I can for Trever, so he can process the night round as quickly as possible once he gets online tomorrow.

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hezekiah

I suppose that's why Redack replied to the e-mail I sent with a blatant lie, before he ever shared what I wrote with the rest of the sith, and knowing I would be killed at that. And I know I was refered to as "unstable" at least twice.

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Feral

I suppose that's why Redack replied to the e-mail I sent with a blatant lie, before he ever shared what I wrote with the rest of the sith, and knowing I would be killed at that. And I know I was refered to as "unstable" at least twice.

It's a game about lying Feral :|

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Count Dooku

What have I done to fuck with the game? Please, answer me that.

First if all presumably you accepted the offer to be made a host, second you posted in threads you shouldn't have when you're dead (including the main post). I'll agree, the main issue is Feral saying more important things.

It also didn't help that I have been dealing with a bruised ego since I was where you and Dooku agreed that you would rather have me dead that a Sith because I am "unstable".

I likely said "can be" but if I didn't I don't really care, I'm not going to pretend I didn't use that word to describe how you can be,

You are what is known as a sore-winner. You won the damn game but are pissed that you didn't win it perfectly.

First, that shows you don't even know me (understandable as there's like only one person on this site that really does). Second, it shows you don't even know what I'm complaining about (I probably didn't make it clear but whatever, when I make my proper complaint I will aim to make it clearer).

I suppose that's why Redack replied to the e-mail I sent with a blatant lie, before he ever shared what I wrote with the rest of the sith, and knowing I would be killed at that.

At what point did it become a blatant lie, after your host priviledges let you see everything or when you realised this is a game based entirely around lying.

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Redack

Alright, guys, just calm down. Feral made a mistake and he admitted that, so there's no need to keep harping on it. And Feral, I don't think Redack/Dooku/#85 meant to insult you and since they're just random people on the internet, it really doesn't matter if they did cause their opinions have no bearing on your life. Let's remember that it's just a game and it's meant to be fun! ^^

Anyway, I don't really see what the big deal about Teddy's post is, since Roxas apparently died during the night and that's the only thing he revealed that I can see. And I'm silencing Bandit.

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white lancer

Redack, please do realize that as admins, Feral and I have other ways to get at whatever game-relevant information we desire. So it's not as if not making us hosts would have necessarily prevented any of this from happening.

I won't deny that I posted in other threads while dead, the evidence is right there is a few of the role threads. My intent was to be available to help Trever with any problems, as it had seemed like he didn't have a complete grasp on what all is involved in hosting. That's a different issue, however.

Anyway. Right now I'm doing what I can to clear things up for Trever once he gets online tomorrow.

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hezekiah

Redack, please do realize that as admins, Feral and I have other ways to get at whatever game-relevant information we desire. So it's not as if not making us hosts would have necessarily prevented any of this from happening.

Please do realize that I'm just a lowly user on the website, and I don't get to see the game-relevant information when I desire. And that's how it should be for EVERYONE but the host of the game.

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Count Dooku

Yeah I don't get to go into every thread when I am dead and watch how people play, that's pretty valuable information you can use for later games.

I know it can get boring and you just want the game to end when you aren't playing, but we all wanted to see if we could play a perfect game.

But yeah it's just a game. No need to take it personal or get mad.

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#85

Redack, please do realize that as admins, Feral and I have other ways to get at whatever game-relevant information we desire. So it's not as if not making us hosts would have necessarily prevented any of this from happening.

Then why did Feral ask to be made a host in a previous game so he could see everything and why isn't Chief able to do it. If admins can get into these posts (or whatever they're stored in order to see their contents) then I think Xhin needs to review that because this incident proves there's a clear need for only the current game's host to be able to see this info.

Trever also seemed to be doing mostly fine before you died, so why did you need to be a host? He was also running it pretty smoothly before Feral died so why did he need to be a host? Yeano already made it clear he would help with any issues Trever had so why did either of you need to be hosts?

Of course as a moderator I suppose I wouldn't understand the grand complexities of why admins think its ok to just break the rules of the game...

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Redack

Internet is being ghetto, my bad

YOU BLEW IT

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Count Dooku

#85: I tagged your double post. All threads have historically been opened up for view by all at the conclusion of the game, by the way.

Count Dooku: I feel like you may have interpreted my last post as more spiteful / condescending / rude / what-have-you than I intended it to be. Didn't mean it in that sort of way all. Sorry for any confusion I caused. As to your point, I would think that somebody would accommodate a dead player's request for whatever info they were curious about... in past games, some players wanted the dead thread to stay spoiler-free, and it did; I, however, was hoping for more info and Yeano shared it with me over AIM.

I'm sick of writing :-/

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hezekiah

Not all of them. One or two games yeah but a few haven't.

Heze I do think you are a very solid mod but I think Red and myself's gripe is you are dead and kind of involving yourself in the game. I guess the complaint applies more to feral how he jumped in and called the game before it was really over.

Not attacking anyone, just throwing it out there.

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#85

I'm not particularly bothered Hezekiah, and I'm not mad over it, I'd just prefer that we had only the one host and no one but the host got to see the big picture until the end.

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Count Dooku

Posting this just in case the game continues and I wind up dead.

Majora being a Jedi Knight frees us to convert him next round and kill either Bandit or chief, whichever we think is more likely to be Anakin. If Anakin hits either Roxas or myself, I don't think it's likely to be Zanic. Zanic is probably either Yoda or Padme (or a Jedi Knight if Xhin didn't actually give up his role).

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