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vegas 1 day 2 longest night ever

Posted May 27, 2014 by Xhin

During the long night, the sun burnt out. One Daywalker had to become a Hooker to make ends meet, one turned to gambling, and two couldn't take it anymore and became drug addicts. They were in good company! Four drugs were scored that long night and the addicts were turned loose on the town...

Hindenberg also died. He was a Townie.

The townies arranged a "Get well soon" card for the Sun, and by that I mean they invested their earnings in sending nukes to the sun until it restarted.

Player List

1. chiefsonny
2. Majora's Mask 9
3. Jo Nathan
4. Feral
5. Black Yoshi
6. Count Dooku
7. EvilGuy0613
8. Castrael
9. Kyon
10. SDYoshi
11. Ghowilo
12. hezekiah
13. Moonray
14. white lancer
15. Lightvayne
16. Pirate_Ninja
17. Hindenburg -- Townie
18. `Roxas`
19. Lady Flare
Ratio: 6-13
Town roles: Cowboy, Jack, Bankrupt Sensor, Rioter, Corrupt Mayor, Dirty Cop, Townie x7
Mafia roles: Godfather, Blackjack Dealer, Shady Detective, Back-alley Doctor, Pimp, Newcomer
Special: Undercover Prosecutor
Vices: Drug Dealer, Drug Addict, Gambler, Hooker, ???

NIFE Notes

  • You can now vote for "Not Voting" or "No Kill" inside the normal voting column. You can also do this for ??? Voting and Mafia kills.

  • Random doesn't work yet, but it will eventually.

  • Other updates will be coming in the next few hours.

  • There are 73 Replies


    Alright, you townies can blame Xhin and his idea to extend the Night rather then just pause it completly that I was unable to follow though with my plan to single handedly off a Mafia without risking any towns. Now I have to risk both myself and an innosent bystander.

    I am the Cop. I am also in the secret society that picks that daters. Being the obvious thing to do, I investigated one of my society colligues thinking a confimed innosent I could legally talk to privatly was a huge tool for any cop, particularly one who can give his powers away.

    Anyway, I attempted to set myself and my Mafia colligue up on a date so I could kill them annonomously with my townie gun, timing my swerve vote just minutes before the 24 hour mark. But because the night failed to end with no one playing the wiser, a very late vote change was counted, replacing me with another player.

    @The person dating Majora, kill him. This will take care of a Mafia without wasting a lynch. If he is alive come tomorrow, you are likely Mafia. But as Majora is the one who suggested one of us date you, that is unlikly.

    To the third and (inactive) fourth society members, sorry for the deception. I do not blame you for this fuck up.

    May 27, 2014
    Feral Wolf
    The Rogue Wolf

    Oh, and Mafia, I'm not stupid. Kill me if you want, but I'll have given my badge away by tonight, so the Cop will live on.

    May 27, 2014
    Feral Wolf
    The Rogue Wolf

    Yeah, I'm still confused about the point of the Dirty Cop's Badge... the role description was really misleading.

    May 27, 2014
    hezekiah

    Basically, the Dirty Cop can investigate anyone like a normal Cop, but they can also pass their Badge onto someone else (this means that the person they pass the badge onto becomes the Cop and they turn into a normal (probably soon-to-be-dead) Townie).

    May 27, 2014
    Xhin
    Sky's the limit

    Gotcha. Well, that works out well for us. Seems like that should be SOP then for as soon as a cop gets a guilty; pass it on to someone else before the mafia kills you off.


    I'm not quite following all of your logic, Feral:
    How were you going to communicate with him if Majora had come up innocent?
    What if he had been the Godfather?
    What about the other members of your society? What if one of them was mafia?

    May 27, 2014
    hezekiah

    I checked number 3, and they are innosent. Number 4 has yet to even post. It would have still been a risk, but it was a start.

    May 27, 2014
    Feral Wolf
    The Rogue Wolf

    NIFE UPDATE

    Current round votes now appear below. The color scheme for usernames is similar to the one for april fools' jokes.

    This also works for mafia and ??? votes.

    May 27, 2014
    Xhin
    Sky's the limit

    So what happens if the cop passes his badge to a mafia member?

    May 27, 2014
    Moonray

    The cop then becomes a Mafia sided role. Won't help the Mafia, but takes away a major power role from the town.

    May 27, 2014
    Feral Wolf
    The Rogue Wolf

    Woah woah, what? I am legitimately town-sided this game.

    I have a lot more to say but I really want to emphasize the fact that I'm not mafia and if Feral's claim is accurate then something is off. I swear I'm not mafia this game.

    May 27, 2014
    MajorasMask9

    So what happens if the cop passes his badge to a mafia member?

    The mafia member becomes a Cop in addition to being a Mafia (remember you can have multiple roles!)

    May 27, 2014
    Xhin
    Sky's the limit

    Kind of a pointless gimmick, now that I think about it. Although the Mafia member could totally use it to root out neutral players *cough*. In other games it could be useful to find Outsiders or Traitors, not to mention discovering neutral players like the Journalist

    May 27, 2014
    Xhin
    Sky's the limit

    Okay then...no idea what to make of this now. Feral's cop claim seems legitimate (that is, his claim that he was the first with the badge), but so too does Majora's claim to innocence. However, he did not claim any particular role, simply said he was "innocent"; he could potentially be the Godfather. We cannot rule anything out at this point.

    @Xhin: Late to this party, I know, but is there a way to sync up NIFE with the game notifications at the top of the screen? If it can't be done for this game, then maybe for the future?

    May 27, 2014
    Black Yoshi

    Well yea I kinda meant do they just get the cop's power (in which case I guess from their view at least they stole it) or do they become town sided or what... But from what you've said I assume they stay mafia but gain the ability to do cop checks (which is only useful to them if there's non-mafia that show up as guilty).

    The reason I asked is on the off chance Feral passes his power to someone random rather than someone he investigated as a confirmed innocent (although godfather skews that).

    May 27, 2014
    Moonray

    Alright, I'm not busy anymore and can post what needs to be said. This is a risky claim to be making so early but I feel like it's not really something that can be avoided: I'm the Bankrupt Sensor. I'm being 100% serious here.

    If Feral's claim is legitimate I think it's likely that Xhin might be using something similar to the old "Insanity" trait this game that gives the "opposite" or normal cop results. Ie, innocents show up guilty and guilty players show up innocent. Usually when this is included it's intentionally a secret from the players involved to cause confusion. I wrote a quick response to Feral in the ??? thread (I'm also a part of it) and asked him to investigate himself to prove this. If my theory is right, he should get a guilty verdict on himself.

    Either that or he's mafia himself. But I honestly believe his claim of having the cop badge.

    I can't prove my role and I know it probably seems counter-intuitive to not kill me when we have a guilty verdict on me but I am the Bankrupt Sensor. I wish I could prove that *right now* but I'm hoping if Feral investigates himself it would put any doubts behind us.

    May 27, 2014
    MajorasMask9

    You are lying. You know damn well I'd be dead before I could investgate myself. There is no Doctor or BPVs in play. Giving away my badge isn't optional for me.

    Whomever I chose as my replacement has to make that decision.

    May 27, 2014
    Feral Wolf
    The Rogue Wolf

    Yoshi, I got a Guilty verdict on Majora, therefor he CAN'T be the Godfather, who shows as innosent.

    May 27, 2014
    Feral Wolf
    The Rogue Wolf

    NIGHT ACTION PRIORITIES

    Special moves < Kills < Anything "Quick" or anything that locks after use < Life saves < Hookers

    Basically, hookers trump everything including other hookers. Yes this can totally happen:



    It's like my grandpappy always used to say:

    If a hooker hookers a hooker, that hooker's hookering has been hookered.

    May 27, 2014
    Xhin
    Sky's the limit

    but is there a way to sync up NIFE with the game notifications at the top of the screen? If it can't be done for this game, then maybe for the future?

    It's planned. Might happen sometime this game actually.

    But from what you've said I assume they stay mafia but gain the ability to do cop checks (which is only useful to them if there's non-mafia that show up as guilty).

    This.

    May 27, 2014
    Xhin
    Sky's the limit

    So when does this day round end.

    How many hours or how many votes?

    May 28, 2014
    chiefsonny
     

    9 VOTES or 48 HOURS

    Which translates to, May 29th 10pm in case I end up going to work this week.

    May 28, 2014
    Xhin
    Sky's the limit

    Even if you're telling the truth about being the sensor, Majora (I'd put it at no more than a 30% probability that you're telling the truth, FWIW), you're as good as dead... gotta figure the mafia would make you one of their top targets.

    If it turns out you are town-sided, Majora, it'll become painfully clear that either Feral and/or the third ???? member (whoever he is) is mafia.


    Yay Brewers! Tomorrow's pitcher won it today!

    May 28, 2014
    hezekiah

    Except that there are protective roles that can keep me alive?

    And there are four members in the ??? club, not three. I find it odd that you knew there were more people in the ??? club than Feral and myself, when the only place it was mentioned here (by Feral) clearly stated there were four people. Unless you heard it somewhere else, like the mafia thread.

    You are lying. You know damn well I'd be dead before I could investgate myself. There is no Doctor or BPVs in play. Giving away my badge isn't optional for me.


    No, the thing is I'm NOT lying. What do you want me to say? "Alright, kill me and lose the sensor?" I don't even understand how the Dirty Cop works but I'm dead positive that there's some kind of "insanity"-esque gimmick going on that's giving opposite results, because I'm 100% town-sided.

    Not going to accept a lynch because of some insanity gimmick that's in play.

    May 28, 2014
    MajorasMask9

    It's going to be found out at one point or another, but the person Feral referenced was me. I've decided to use the gun given to me going into the date to kill Majora so that we can use a lynch on a more effective target. I have a feeling the Mafia will target me tonight for being so open about it.

    May 28, 2014
    `Roxas`

    Holy crap the game is back on o_O;
    ok so...
    @The person dating Majora, kill him. This will take care of a Mafia without wasting a lynch. If he is alive come tomorrow, you are likely Mafia. But as Majora is the one who suggested one of us date you, that is unlikly.


    Yoshi, I got a Guilty verdict on Majora, therefor he CAN'T be the Godfather, who shows as innosent.


    Clear something up for me here. If you checked Yoshi (you never stated WHICH yoshi btw), how are you so sure that Majora is also Mafia? I must be missing something here, because how is it possible for you have knowledge on both if you can't use your action on night 0?

    May 28, 2014
    Lightvayne

    Ignore me I'm an idiot. I misread that you got a guilty verdict on Yoshi.

    This is a lesson to all of you, don't play mafia unless you've had your morning coffee {fp}

    May 28, 2014
    Lightvayne

    Being that it's not a killing role, I was able to use my power night 0. I checked Majora night 0 and ??? member #3 night 1. ??? member #4 will likely be host killed for inactivity.

    May 28, 2014
    Feral Wolf
    The Rogue Wolf

    I find it odd that you knew there were more people in the ??? club than Feral and myself, when the only place it was mentioned here (by Feral) clearly stated there were four people.

    -Majora

    I checked number 3, and they are innosent.

    -Feral

    That all but guarantees that either Majora or the third ???? is mafia, since either Feral's results are accurate and Majora is guilty, or they're opposite and #3 is guilty. Or there's something like a coin flip determining the investigation results. Regardless, we haven't heard anything about the fourth ???? member, so there's no conclusions to be drawn about his allegiance.

    May 28, 2014
    hezekiah

    POW

    Everyone looked up at the high-rise, glass shattering everywhere as MajorasMask9 was thrown out of the top floor. He looked to be already dead by the time he hit the ground.

    MajorasMask9, the Shady Detective and the Undercover Prosecutor is dead!

    May 28, 2014
    Xhin
    Sky's the limit

    Shady Detective, looks like someone's a liar.

    May 28, 2014
    Ghowilo

    So this means Feral is basically confirmed Innocent at this point. Was going to vote Majora but now that he's dead...

    May 28, 2014
    Black Yoshi

    PLEASE NOTE

    Posting screenshots to confirm your identity is against the rules. You can be host-killed for it, so don't do it!

    Yes, I realize screenshots aren't impossible to spoof:



    But not everyone knows how to do that. In the interest of fairness, don't do it!

    May 28, 2014
    Xhin
    Sky's the limit



    May 28, 2014
    Xhin
    Sky's the limit

    Beautiful! Finally managed to pull off a power move in Mafia, and took out a major threat.

    I have given away my badge. I fully trust my colligue I gave it to. Apparently, I'll still be able to talk to them through the ??? thread even after death(Xhin said Majora is still in that thread to vote on dates...), but I doubt I'd be allowed to say anything about what is said in the dead thread.

    I don't expect to survive much longer, but even if I drop dead now, I'm satisfied at what I've accomplished this game.

    May 28, 2014
    Feral Wolf
    The Rogue Wolf

    Well, now what?

    May 28, 2014
    hezekiah

    You done good Feral. {y}

    I don't think we should no-kill though. We have a bit of leeway now.

    May 28, 2014
    Jo Nathan

    I think Kyon's innocent. Probably a Townie. So, it'd be risk to take. I'd do no Kill since we have really nothing but if Feral is right about Majora, then Majora it is.

    Sorry for not posting much. Work and losing/gaining interest in Mafia, etc.

    May 28, 2014
    Castrael

    test? (I'm dead and won't say anything, just want to see if this is something that needs fixing)

    May 28, 2014
    MajorasMask9

    Oh, nvm about Majora lol

    May 28, 2014
    Castrael

    OH NO! IT'S MAJORA'S GHOST!

    May 28, 2014
    Feral Wolf
    The Rogue Wolf

    (hehe)

    May 28, 2014
    `Roxas`

    A zombie joke would be perfect for this situation, but I think those have been done to death at this point...

    May 28, 2014
    Jo Nathan

    I'm here. The first part of this Day Round was confusing but I think I understand now that Majora is dead. I really don't want to No Kill. But I don't have a suspect to put forward either.

    May 28, 2014
    Lady Flare

    Unless Feral (or whoever the first Badge wielder was) has information from Night 0, we either need to take a shot in the dark or no kill. If he's passed the badge on to ??? 3, then revealing his (or her) identity is detrimental to us.

    I fully believe Feral's claim at the start of the round, but we've seen it before where a Mafia-sided player had a Cop ability at one point in the game and used it to play the town.

    I'd prefer we at least tried to make the Mafia play a game of catch up, but preserving the numbers should be priority #1. Especially if there are Mafia members who are druggies, which I would imagine is bound to happen at some point or another, that could make them even more dangerous.

    May 28, 2014
    `Roxas`

    Uh, if I was a Mafia sided Cop, why would I have one of my team mates killed right off the bat?

    May 29, 2014
    Feral Wolf
    The Rogue Wolf

    That part was just theory, not necessarily an accusation.

    May 29, 2014
    `Roxas`

    Uh, if I was a Mafia sided Cop, why would I have one of my team mates killed right off the bat?
    for the immediate reaction of "So this means Feral is basically confirmed Innocent at this point."

    that said, the fact that it was Detective Majora who went impromptu BASE jumping definitely makes it seem less likely to be a ruse. It's possible, but I certainly wouldn't bet on it.

    May 29, 2014
    Pirate_Ninja

    I really have no idea who to kill, so No Kill.

    May 29, 2014
    Castrael

    "Help, Heeeeeeelp"

    The town watched in horror as Ghowilo ran out of the police station, covered in blood. But before they could do anything, he collapsed on the ground.

    Ghowilo, the new Dirty Cop in town, was Dead! On his person they found a Badge. The town tried to use it, but it was imprinted with Ghowilo's private password.

    May 29, 2014
    Xhin
    Sky's the limit

    Mid-Round Player List

    1. chiefsonny
    2. Majora's Mask 9 -- Shady Detective, Undercover Prosecutor
    3. Jo Nathan
    4. Feral
    5. Black Yoshi
    6. Count Dooku
    7. EvilGuy0613
    8. Castrael
    9. Kyon
    10. SDYoshi
    11. Ghowilo -- Dirty Cop
    12. hezekiah
    13. Moonray
    14. white lancer
    15. Lightvayne
    16. Pirate_Ninja
    17. Hindenburg -- Townie
    18. `Roxas`
    19. Lady Flare
    Ratio: 5-11
    Town roles: Cowboy, Jack, Bankrupt Sensor, Rioter, Corrupt Mayor, Townie x6
    Mafia roles: Godfather, Blackjack Dealer, Back-alley Doctor, Pimp, Newcomer
    Vices: Drug Dealer, Drug Addict, Gambler, Hooker, ???

    May 29, 2014
    Xhin
    Sky's the limit

    Sorry I have not been keeping up with this day round so much. Just recently got back from being on vacation and readjusting again.

    We're in a fine position at the moment I guess. Since I have no leads to who else could be mafia at the moment....

    May 29, 2014
    EvilGuy0613

    Yeah posted this after the fact =/

    May 29, 2014
    EvilGuy0613

    There are only 3 people that could have killed the Dirty Cop who was a townie.

    The Cowboy---Townie
    Jack---------Townie
    Drug Addict--Could be either Mafia or Townie.

    I have my doubts it was a druggie on a Stimulant because that requires a bare handed kill. And Ghowilo was covered in blood.

    So that makes us down 2 townies already, so maybe we need to be a little more careful who we pop a cap on.

    May 29, 2014
    chiefsonny
     

    Actually it can't be the Jack because the Jack can only use his items at night.

    May 29, 2014
    Xhin
    Sky's the limit

    So does that mean no more Badge, or is that still in play?

    May 29, 2014
    Black Yoshi

    I think it means no more Badge/Cop role.

    May 29, 2014
    Lady Flare

    Well, that was shitty luck. At least it comfirms to the Mafia that I'm not the Cop anymore, so they have no reason to kill me. Well, except that I am one of the only confirmed innosents, the other being Roxas.

    May 29, 2014
    Feral Wolf
    The Rogue Wolf

    Hey, if the drug addicts know who the other addicts are and what abilities the gained, we can use Ghow's death to our advantage.

    It occures to me that Ghow's murder may not have been as random as it seems. I batantly said that I gave my badge to the third member of the ??? group. If Majora(or a possibly Mafia ??? #4) told the Mafia who was in the group, then I pretty much told them who the new cop was. It makes sense that it was a Mafia sided drug addict who offed him. If any town sided addicts know who recieved the kill ability, come forward.

    May 29, 2014
    Feral Wolf
    The Rogue Wolf

    Did I miss something? How is Roxas confirmed innocent, now?

    If Majora(or a possibly Mafia ??? #4) told the Mafia who was in the group, then I pretty much told them who the new cop was. It makes sense that it was a Mafia sided drug addict who offed him. If any town sided addicts know who recieved the kill ability, come forward.


    This this this this this. I agree with all of this.

    Now who did I sell my powerup drugs to? Hmm.... brb

    May 29, 2014
    Jo Nathan

    Roxas, white lancer, chiefsonny, and Black Yoshi all got good drugs, so it had to be one of them.

    May 29, 2014
    Jo Nathan

    Roxas killed Majora on date = Roxas had gun = Roxas is town-sided.

    May 29, 2014
    Feral Wolf
    The Rogue Wolf

    Hey, if the drug addicts know who the other addicts are and what abilities the gained, we can use Ghow's death to our advantage.


    If I understand it right. The people addicts and dealers only know if the drug the addicts got was Cheap Stuff
    Mid-grade Stuff
    Good Stuff

    And only the addicts that got the Good Stuff ia aware of which effect they got.

    I got the Psy drug.

    And why did you not include the Cowboy in your list. Have you forgotten the last game when Hindenburg was killing people just for the hell of it and lost a point because of it.

    May 29, 2014
    chiefsonny
     

    #Vigilantegate2014 #neverforget

    I think the events that unfolded seem more deliberate than random. It's not completely implausible that the Cowboy took a shot in the dark and got unlucky, but it would be one hell of a coincidence. Given the circumstances, I think it's a lot MORE plausible that Majora told his team who was in the ??? group so they could take out the new dirty cop... like Feral had explained.

    May 29, 2014
    Jo Nathan

    I chose to use the gun on the dinner date and am forgoing using my drug that Jo Nathan gave to me.

    May 29, 2014
    `Roxas`

    @Xhin:

    Are we allowed to post the Status Effects: that show what drug we got?

    Not what the drug did just the type of drug?

    May 29, 2014
    chiefsonny
     

    Yes and you can also say what the drug told you (which is sort of the purpose of that drug).

    May 30, 2014
    Xhin
    Sky's the limit

    So it's ok to copy and paste the body of my acid trip thread.

    May 30, 2014
    chiefsonny
     

    How cool is that. Stay tuned boys and girls{:D}

    May 30, 2014
    chiefsonny
     

    I wanted to post this if it was not breaking the rules, so that the rest of the town could see if there was anything useful in it.

    To be very honest, I can't make head or tails out of it. And maybe there's nothing there except a bunch of gibberish Xhin thought might be funny
    So you decide.

    WELCOME TO MY TRIP{fp}

    Status Effects: Psy

    Your brain stretches sideways as your universe bends into a circle. You start to hear voices, very distorted, but you make out some of the colors they turn into.

    It's been fun, but it's time for me to retire. I'll collect my pension and mentor my new leutenant

    And now we're talking about wasting our night kill


    Some of the words were colored but did not copy in color.

    May 30, 2014
    chiefsonny
     

    It's been fun, but it's time for me to retire. I'll collect my pension and mentor my new leutenant


    Sounds like it might be something to do with Feral. He was the Cop but passed his Badge on.

    And now we're talking about wasting our night kill


    Maybe Mafia talking about killing Feral. But since he's no longer the Cop why bother.

    These are just my guesses mind you. But I sold chief the drugs after all.

    May 30, 2014
    Lady Flare

    sounds to me like quotes from more than one place - as far as I can see, that drug is said to give the user some private information, but not from what - or how many - sources...and they don't really seem to flow.

    Your brain stretches sideways as your universe bends into a circle. You start to hear voices, very distorted, but you make out some of the colors they turn into.
    delicious hallucinogenic flavor text

    It's been fun, but it's time for me to retire. I'll collect my pension and mentor my new leutenant
    based on today's events, sounds like Feral talking about giving his badge away to a new lieutenant who'd pick up where he left off. If he's here before the round ends he can confirm/deny this.

    And now we're talking about wasting our night kill
    presumably mafia talk, since it's a group of people with plans to kill. I don't think it tells us very much at this point unless the tone of the message can clue us in to the identity of the speaker. To me, it sounds a little terse - frustrated at a lack of a unified mafia vision, perhaps. The fact that chief is the one sharing this leads me to think it's less likely to be him (despite sounding like something he might say imo) when he could easily omit something that's possibly self-incriminating from his trip recap.

    May 30, 2014
    Pirate_Ninja

    It's been fun, but it's time for me to retire. I'll collect my pension and mentor my new leutenant

    Going off of what we know from this day round, I'd say these are Feral's words.

    And now we're talking about wasting our night kill

    Mafia, probably discussing about going after Feral or his (now) ill-fated protege.

    --

    I'm no lucid trip analyst or anything like that, but those seem pretty fitting.

    May 30, 2014
    `Roxas`

    Ok, times running out. I'm going to make a guess. Which kind of sucks because he's one of my best customers.

    May 30, 2014
    Lady Flare

    Reply to: vegas 1 day 2 longest night ever

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